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the Masters almost surely have a plan

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this clearly may be something that's

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how's it going higher side chatters

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anyone who swam and the deep end of the

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weird pool has inevitably come across

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stories of aliens UFOs and secret

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military bases in the southwestern

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United States whether it be crashed

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saucers near Roswell secret underground

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otherworldly battles at Dulce or a

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doomsday safe haven for the elite

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underneath the Denver Airport the

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western frontier is ripe with weirdness

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this we know and many of us who have dug

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into the archives of early America have

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also found plenty of confirmation that

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Giants once walked these lands with

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evidence and dozens and dozens of

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newspaper reports and Native American

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legends that stayed the same well the

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fun thing about today's show is we're

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not going over these same old stories in

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fact we're doing a complete geographical

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180 because while everyone has their

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conspiracy spotlights shining on the New

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Mexico desert they're missing all the

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sweet sweet similar secretive stuff

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going on in the polar opposite part of

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the country the mountains of North

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Carolina and while Giants tend to

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dominate the narrative of strange

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ancient humanoids there are lesser

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discussed legends of little people

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living in that same Carolina area and

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lucky for us today's guest Mary Joyce is

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a longtime journalist and author who has

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written several books but among them are

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Cherokee little people were real an

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underground military bases hidden in the

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North Carolina mountains she also is the

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editor of the website sky ships over

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cashers which details the UFO activity

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in the area and more it's an honor and a

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pleasure Mary Joyce welcome to the

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higher side thank you it's a pleasure to

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be on your show thank you yeah this is

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really exciting so often we hear the

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same old stories from the same old

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places but I'm looking forward to

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something new let's kick this off maybe

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talking about the area in general as a

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hotbed for strangeness how did you come

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to recognize all this stuff going on in

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the Carolina region what were some of

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the first oddities that you notice once

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you moved into the area well I moved

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here in 1998 and I lived just south of

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the Smoky Mountain National Park if that

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gives people an idea of the geography

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and so there's mountains everywhere and

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the job that I had for quite a number of

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years I kept meeting very very

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interesting people so initially some of

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the stories started just by talking to

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people where I work

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and through them I began to find out

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about Cherokee little people that lived

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here in the mountains about Giants about

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underground facilities about UFOs

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eventually it inspired a website that we

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started in 2008 which you have mentioned

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already it's called sky ships over

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cashiers and we deal with those kind of

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subjects and and many other subjects

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that the regular media just simply

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doesn't cover mm-hmm yeah it's so weird

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that there is such a Pandora's box of

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strangeness there but let's get into the

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military bases maybe to start because

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these secret facilities they always

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intrigued me can you tell us how many

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you've been covered in that area and

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where they might be

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all right I've done a book I did it a

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year ago and the long title is

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underground military bases hidden in

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North Carolina mountains and I've

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featured five different facilities here

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in the mountains the one that anybody in

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the country would be familiar with would

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be the Smoky Mountain National Park and

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there is one that's beneath there it's

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one of the more recent ones because

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people have gotten photos that I have

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been able to acquire from basically 2012

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where you know major equipment is being

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dropped from the air to this site where

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we know the the entrance is our best

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so they're able to identify you know

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machine guns and helicopters and

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transport planes and they know a lot

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that the average witness or eyewitness

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wouldn't know so they're very credible

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witnesses that I've been able to quote

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in the book mm-hmm you mentioned the

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Smoky Mountain National Park having a

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facility under there there's also one I

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believe Mountain Mitchell is that a

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separate facility yes some people

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believe and there's evidence that it

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might be true that these various

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facilities beneath the mountains here in

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North Carolina are all connected by

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underground tunnels in transportation

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portals you might say hmm so they're not

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adjacent to each other but they're not

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that far apart and the Mount Mitchell

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is the tallest mountain east of the

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Mississippi and there is a large

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facility beneath that and again we had a

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military person who was a key witness

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and giving us information about that hmm

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and do we know how deep any of these

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facilities are have any of the witnesses

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been able to disclose that kind of info

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yes there's quite a variety the first

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facility that I learned about was called

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the Perry astronomical Research

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Institute it's gone back to the days of

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the Cold War and supposedly they've

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transformed it into just an educational

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astronomy place but we have people with

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high security clearance who say that

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it's a facility that city size it's six

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storeys deep it's totally

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self-sufficient has electricity water

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roadways and we hear that with most of

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these so they're very extensive they're

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not just like a little bunker the one

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that is the biggest seems to be beneath

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Mount Mitchell and that is supposedly 20

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stories deep in from the top of the

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mountain Wow I mean that is that's huge

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and I've also got a note here apparently

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that this Mountain Mitchell facility

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might be controlled or at least

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facilitating UN troops this is one of

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the things that has puzzled me since I

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first moved to the mountains again in

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1998 and people would periodically talk

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about foreign troops being in the

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mountains around here and it always

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puzzled me why that was even permitted

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and I found out that in 1972 our country

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when Nixon was president signed the

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world heritage treaty and when we did

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that we actually turned over parcels of

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our land to the United Nations Mount

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Mitchell is one of those the Smoky

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Mountain National Park is one of those

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so even though it's in our country and

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even though our taxes may support the

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facilities there for tourists it's still

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owned by the UN and that can explain why

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they have free rein of places like Mount

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Mitchell around here they're known as

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blue hats I thought that was really

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interesting I didn't

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know much about the world heritage

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treaty at all but apparently the

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northwestern Hawaiian Islands which is a

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hundred and forty thousand square miles

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when under UN jurisdiction in 2010 then

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in 2014 the monumental earthworks of

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Poverty Point Louisiana was added and

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since then several more things have been

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added does this concern you what do you

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think the implications are of this what

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why is this happening

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it goes beyond our country and and I

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find it rather creepy that the UN is

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having control over so many places

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around the world 140,000 acres is no

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small thing personally I think we made a

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mistake

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the motivation originally was just to

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protect natural resources like the

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islands like Mount Mitchell but it's

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being used for you know military causes

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that our country doesn't even have

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control over so I wish it didn't exist I

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wish we could unsign it well I think it

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says a lot that these bases were ever in

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the country we're talking about are

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considered to be under national parks

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because driving through some of these

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areas you look at the way the country

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has been run how the elite operate with

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this extreme capitalist mindset

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completely alright with destroying the

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earth and I've often looked at these

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places these tens of thousands of square

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acres and I'm kind of impressed that we

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haven't just harvested it all and put in

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some suburbs

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it's pretty amazing we've resisted the

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temptation and greed you know but the

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altruism kind of falls apart when you

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consider the reason these areas might be

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largely blocked off in civilization is

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so they can conceal operations

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underground more than anything else yeah

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basics that I've written about in the

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book is at Sugarloaf Mountain

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well Sugarloaf Mountain is near a almost

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adjacent to chimney rock park which is

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another Park where tours like to go and

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since I first began doing that research

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they've even acquired more land as a

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buffer between the entrance that we know

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about which is at the top of the

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Sugarloaf Mountain and the chimney Rock

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Park so it's a buffer that keeps people

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away from it and they seem to

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do this a lot mm-hmm just to insulate it

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keep people off of the property and they

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also do things that you know keep people

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away from we've been wanting to go there

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when I was investigating things that

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were going on at Mount Mitchell we found

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a actually I found it on Google Maps and

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it was a hexagon shape that looked a lot

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like entrances to other facilities we'd

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seen and also looked a lot like well

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anyhow we'll leave it at that and when I

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went back to try to you know get the map

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up again when I would type in this

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location it wouldn't come up and the

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only way you can find it it was at the

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end of a road let's see if I can

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remember the name it was like Warren

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Wilson Road which is a terrible sounding

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name and when I would type that in

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suddenly instead of getting the map like

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they had been able to do the first few

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times I got connections to Walmart's

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I got connections to weren't removal

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products and so just on memory I started

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searching from other points and

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eventually found where this hexagon

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shape was in the ground and it was all

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covered up it didn't airbrushed out so

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it looked like the retrieves there now

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so there were signs all around that

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place when I went there on foot telling

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you not to trespass and you know very

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threatening signs and so they do

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everything they can to keep people away

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from these places hmm yeah one

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interesting testimony I had written down

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here that's you know kind of in that

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vein is one of your witnesses said that

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one day some friends of ours drove ATVs

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on the one way section of hen tuga road

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from the hatchery of big cove road and

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Cherokee after they'd ridden three or

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four miles up the road they were stopped

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by Park Rangers who were carrying either

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m4s or ar-15 machine guns I mean what

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are Park Rangers doing with machine guns

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right you just really really have to

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wonder part of that same story well I

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can share more of that because that even

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gets expanded for these two gentlemen

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that worked at the Fish Hatchery which

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would be like at the bottom of the

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mountain and at the top of the mountain

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this world called hein to corrode and

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sure it's an old Indian name and that is

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the closest point to the entrance to

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this underground facility and so the

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water stopped flowing like it should

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from you know the tributary into the

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fish hatchery so these two guys started

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going up the creek to find out if

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beavers or something heads stopped the

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flow of the water and they eventually

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found that there the tributary or the

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source of the water at the top of the

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mountain was all dried up not only was

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it all dried up but there was a 50,000

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gallon water tank mostly buried where

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that reservoir had been and there were

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pipes going from that tank down into the

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ground

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so the water was being siphoned off and

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funneled into the ground so that had to

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be a source of water for what was being

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and may be continuing to be built under

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the Smoky Mountain National Park that's

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the most lively one because there was a

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lot of activity going on especially in

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2012-2013 with major drops by Military

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Osprey sky cranes you know big huge

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cargo transport planes and they

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literally would airdrop major what they

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call packages down into the area where

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this entrance would be there's been a

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lot of things that have been seen

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there's also been things felt from

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beneath the ground people hear sounds

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they hear grounding a grinding they hear

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like industrial pounding and there's no

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explanation for it other than

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something's going on beneath the ground

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mm-hmm and you mentioned those air drops

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there's a picture you have in the book

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of a cargo plane carrying like a Humvee

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and that's just so crazy that they would

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need that in the you know mountainous

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areas of North Carolina but we're

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talking about incentives for people to

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not go there you know intimidating signs

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intimidating Mounties with machine guns

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apparently you've also talked about this

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people repellent they seem to be using

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to keep people away that I've

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experienced myself

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I've gotten real close to the Perry

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facility which is the Pisgah

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astronomical Research Institute and I've

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been there with each time with other

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people and the closer you get to it

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it's like field I don't even know how to

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describe it but it's like this vibration

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in your head and it's not pleasant and

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it makes you want to get out of there

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and then we had another military witness

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who went up to take pictures of a

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monument that's near hein to erode which

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is back to the Smoky Mountain National

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Park and she said the birds were singing

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on the way up there the sun was shining

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it was a beautiful day and as she got

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close to this place all the birds

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stopped singing she began to feel you

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know sensations in her head she began to

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feel nauseous and that's what I mean by

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a people repellant it seems to be an

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electronic vibration that sent out that

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repels the animals and people just

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because it's not pleasant yeah that's so

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wild but we have heard people talk about

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that stuff before

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now this Pisgah astronomical Research

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Institute this is pretty interesting and

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I've heard you talk about it before

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saying that it's an invite-only

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astronomical kind of research facility

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have you been able to talk to you any

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astronomers or any scientists who've

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been able to get invites there it's it's

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very strange sometimes you can walk in

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the door and there's not a problem and

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some people have experienced that some

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days people have been at the gate and

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there has been somebody dressed in a

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swat suit at the entrance and so it may

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depend totally and what's going on

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sometimes we'll see UFOs you know flying

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low near that facility or flying into a

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lake that's near it sometimes you see

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military vehicles in the town that's

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closest to it but technically there's no

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base in the area there should be no

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reason that they're there it's so used

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as a camouflage that they say that this

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this astronomical facility is that

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that's all it is but you know we used we

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think of it very much as a cover-up we

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call it a capstone cover-up

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because you know it's not what it

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appears to be hmm and can you tell us

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about some of the UFOs that have been

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sighted around there are they classical

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shapes are they anything abnormal from

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what's typically reported in UFO 101

391
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well let me get back to the name of the

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website we initially named it sky ships

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over cashers dot-com because we were

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getting some pretty incredible

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information and photos over that

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mountain ridge and as the crow flies

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that's not that far from Paree so if

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you're talking about different kinds of

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spaceships we have seen incredible ones

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we've seen your typical saucer ones

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we've seen those that look like rotating

402
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rainbow colors we've seen them

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diamond-shaped the most unusual one and

404
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we've only been able to get pictures of

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this I think on one or two occasions

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they actually look like big rocks almost

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like volcanic rocks but they're UFOs

408
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yeah guy in the sky and we have that's

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the only time we've ever experienced

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that and they're hovering there so it's

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not like it's a meteorite or something

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flying across the sky and since we've

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had the website for so many years now I

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can't necessarily tell you exactly where

415
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to go but in the archives of sky ship

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photos those pictures are there oh I

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think it was I think was last year but

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there may still be some from this year

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Wow

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asteroid looking crops do you think

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these in any way could be perhaps

422
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hologram tests like the floating cities

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we've seen or the rumors of blue beam

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technology or you think these were

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actual ships I think those would

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probably be something actual because if

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they're going to do Holograms I think

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they're going to try to broadcast

429
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something that people will instantly

430
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recognize as a UFO so I don't think that

431
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particular one would have been a

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hologram

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being used so I mean I'm not dismissing

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that but people have seen some of these

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go right into the lake

436
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so you just you know like this most of

437
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them have got to be real well yeah sure

438
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strange ships that come out of the water

439
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or seem to come out of the base of

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mountains they're talked about all the

441
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time in ufology but I'm starting to

442
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think that there might be something even

443
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weirder going on in the UFO realm than

444
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just aliens but kudos for you for

445
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bringing to light some areas that are

446
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just really off the radar and it's where

447
00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:58,720
you got to look because other sites and

448
00:19:04,260 --> 00:19:01,840
locations are just too overblown but

449
00:19:06,690 --> 00:19:04,270
people seen all sorts of UFOs in the sky

450
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that's definitely noteworthy but

451
00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:09,340
assuming this tech might be beyond human

452
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hands have any people reported

453
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:14,920
interactions with the potential pilots

454
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of these crafts or any beings that might

455
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:20,830
be related to them oh let's see I don't

456
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know exactly how to answer that for the

457
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most part no we do have one witness who

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lives up in cashiers and has seen quite

459
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a few of them and she did have someone

460
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that looked like they were dressed in a

461
00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:37,810
maroon spacesuit that briefly appeared

462
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in her house and she's had a UFO hover

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over her backyard so that most likely

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would be an interdimensional being

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making its appearance mm-hmm so we kind

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of mentioned that these things are under

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the National Parks do you find the

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suspicious at all because there are

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people like David polite is talking

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about disappearances in the parks do you

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think there's any conjunction with that

472
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are there a lot of missing people cases

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in these areas that's something that I

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haven't investigated in a big way but I

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do have a new angle on it we did a story

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rather recently we were contacted by a

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man in eastern Tennessee and he said

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that he had little people living on his

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land and he sounded very credible on the

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phone so we followed through on it and

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went to visit him and that story in and

482
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of itself gets rather elaborate but he

483
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has about 200 acres on a river in

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rolling mountain type country and his

485
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family goes back 200 years at least and

486
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the little people have always lived on

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his

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Uchiha ins who believe it or not are

489
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actually white people who fled Ireland

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back in what's in 2250 BC when there was

491
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a major flood there we just found out

492
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this recently from a major researcher

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and these Irish people fled to many

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places just to get out of the flood and

495
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some of them ended up in Savannah

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Georgia then they would take the river

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up to the more mountain area and as a

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tribe they pretty much have disappeared

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because they look so much like regular

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Western people now when you think about

501
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it the Irish have always talked about

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the little people yeah well this

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researcher who I won't get into

504
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prudential right now but the person has

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good credentials maybe some of those

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little people came with them because

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there was this bond between the Uchiha

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original poochy Indians and these little

509
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people and this man that invited us

510
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there had some Gucci blood and he his

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father his grandfather all could

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communicate with the little people and

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when I went there I had my camera of

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course and we found evidence of the

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little people so the little people say

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that there is a race of aliens that are

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very evil and that they actually eat

518
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people and that is like a nourishment

519
00:22:27,659 --> 00:22:23,950
that these this particular group of ETS

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call the earth the farm or the ranch hmm

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I know it wasn't that creepy and they

522
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like like two-year-olds they like little

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00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:34,419
people I guess they're more tasty and so

524
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the little people on this man's land are

525
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very very afraid of them so that might

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be a very unusual possible explanation

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for the unusual number of disappearances

528
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that Paul talks about Wow

529
00:22:54,930 --> 00:22:53,259
so these aliens that feed on us were

530
00:22:57,539 --> 00:22:54,940
they described at all are they reptilian

531
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are they the greys they seemed to be

532
00:23:01,390 --> 00:22:59,660
well they're creepy I

533
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:01,400
scene 1 the description that was given

534
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to us by the little people is that they

535
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look kind of like a cross between

536
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reptilian and dinosaurs and they're very

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large and they call them the dominators

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that's what the little Wow

539
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I know I mean this gets into such deep

540
00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:21,290
craziness that you just go I can't

541
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:23,750
believe this but you know I was able to

542
00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:25,370
get pictures of the little people

543
00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:28,520
footprints it was able to I mean there's

544
00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:29,990
a week you go off in a whole direction

545
00:23:33,970 --> 00:23:31,910
on that so you decide where you want to

546
00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:33,980
go with this conversation I've got more

547
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conversation that will fit in your hour

548
00:23:40,090 --> 00:23:38,990
absolutely I mean I do find it

549
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:40,100
intriguing when people talk about

550
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:42,890
reptilians that if you look at our past

551
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:45,410
we had a planet dominated by large

552
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:48,290
reptiles is it super implausible that

553
00:23:51,970 --> 00:23:50,240
there could be some type of intelligent

554
00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:51,980
humanoid form of that we live in a world

555
00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:54,350
dominated by mammals today and yet here

556
00:23:58,420 --> 00:23:56,600
we are intelligent mammals of some types

557
00:24:00,850 --> 00:23:58,430
I find those kind of stories really

558
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,860
interesting well there's certainly

559
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:02,720
evidence all over the country that's

560
00:24:07,450 --> 00:24:05,930
been found about giants there's been

561
00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:07,460
several books that have come out in very

562
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:10,280
recent years exposing the Smithsonian

563
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:12,110
because there are all sorts of stories

564
00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:13,550
in old newspapers

565
00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:16,190
going back to like the 1800s talking

566
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:18,200
about giant skeletons that they found

567
00:24:21,970 --> 00:24:20,450
and they would give them to the

568
00:24:24,220 --> 00:24:21,980
Smithsonian thinking that was the

569
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:24,230
smartest place that for them to be sent

570
00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:27,290
and then they kind of disappeared into

571
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:29,990
the closets at the Smithsonian and it's

572
00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:32,510
like they didn't exist people say it's

573
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:37,550
because the idea of giants disrupts the

574
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:39,650
the ongoing history that's taught to all

575
00:24:46,210 --> 00:24:42,290
of us mm-hmm but there's been so much

576
00:24:49,570 --> 00:24:46,220
evidence that they you know they clearly

577
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:49,580
existed yeah I've had researchers talk

578
00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:52,730
about the idea that a lot of things

579
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:54,440
happened in ancient America that we

580
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:55,970
aren't aware of and that when they're

581
00:25:01,800 --> 00:24:58,730
building things like even shopping malls

582
00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:01,810
or museums or universities they

583
00:25:07,780 --> 00:25:04,670
purposely place these things in areas

584
00:25:10,450 --> 00:25:07,790
that will obscure or completely cover up

585
00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:10,460
in level ancient sites or any sites that

586
00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:12,470
give us clues to what was here before us

587
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:12,940
because

588
00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:14,650
one's ever gonna move a shopping mall or

589
00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:16,900
a university so if you can get it over

590
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:19,300
one of these places I mean you're never

591
00:25:22,770 --> 00:25:21,310
gonna see it again and I'm kind of

592
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:22,780
curious I wonder if that kind of thing

593
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:25,120
really does happen or how widespread it

594
00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:27,490
is it continues to go on but sometimes

595
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,040
for just monetary reasons one of the

596
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:31,840
people that is in the construction

597
00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:35,410
business he was preparing land for a

598
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:38,350
major I can't identify the building but

599
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:41,530
let's say a major enterprise and when

600
00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:42,850
they cut into the side of a mountain

601
00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:44,830
they found five of the little-people

602
00:25:50,790 --> 00:25:49,240
tunnels and they quickly were instructed

603
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:50,800
to cover them up and keep digging

604
00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:53,110
because they didn't want the project to

605
00:25:58,260 --> 00:25:55,660
be stopped because technically if

606
00:25:58,860 --> 00:25:58,270
there's an archeological find it has to

607
00:26:01,140 --> 00:25:58,870
be stopped

608
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:01,150
until an archeologist can get in there

609
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:04,510
and you know examine what's being found

610
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:08,110
mm-hmm and that is a very common reason

611
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:11,290
for things to be plowed over just pure

612
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:14,170
monetary reasons right yeah who knows

613
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,560
how many times you know a contractor has

614
00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:19,360
said you know what let's just pretend we

615
00:26:22,410 --> 00:26:20,740
didn't see that because they're gonna

616
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:22,420
have all this red tape they're gonna

617
00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:24,460
bring everybody down here so I mean

618
00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:25,870
there's so many different levels of

619
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:28,360
incentivization to not disclose some

620
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:30,730
kind of really anomalous fine like that

621
00:26:36,450 --> 00:26:33,520
it's pretty sad and it's not just pure

622
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:36,460
monetary situations there's a university

623
00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:38,140
here called Western Carolina University

624
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:41,140
which is in the same general area where

625
00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:43,510
all these things are being found and I

626
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:45,940
focused on it in my book Cherokee little

627
00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:49,510
people were real and what happened in

628
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:52,120
that case is the university didn't want

629
00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:54,850
to stop expanding and building buildings

630
00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:58,060
so they would you know try to keep this

631
00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:00,730
hush-hush and one of the interesting

632
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:03,340
stories that's come out since I did the

633
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:06,730
book I got a letter from a man who had

634
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:08,650
been a student there and he said one day

635
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:10,420
he and some of his buddies were just

636
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:13,210
down by the river and they saw the head

637
00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:16,090
of security for the university coming by

638
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:18,400
with a box he described as a little bit

639
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:21,130
bigger than a shoebox and somehow they

640
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:24,410
got into a conversation with this man

641
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:27,650
and he said oh it's bones that they

642
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:29,810
found when they were you know digging

643
00:27:36,730 --> 00:27:32,750
this particular site and he was taking

644
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:36,740
them to Ribery them on an old ATV trail

645
00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:40,310
so that was another example of ancient

646
00:27:47,470 --> 00:27:43,220
knowledge being covered up for you know

647
00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:47,480
real human reasons alright man and I

648
00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:49,640
definitely think that's fascinating I

649
00:27:53,770 --> 00:27:51,230
have planned to get into a little more

650
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:53,780
of the little people stuff here in a

651
00:27:58,390 --> 00:27:55,370
minute but I guess one other question

652
00:28:00,940 --> 00:27:58,400
about these underground bases is have

653
00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:00,950
you heard any reports if we don't have a

654
00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:03,500
whole lot of interaction with aliens in

655
00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:05,540
the area or massive abductions other

656
00:28:09,250 --> 00:28:07,040
than these these beings that might be

657
00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:09,260
eating us have you heard any testimony

658
00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:11,960
of non-human entities operating in these

659
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:13,940
underground bases in the same way we've

660
00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:17,600
heard stories of dulce the simple answer

661
00:28:21,910 --> 00:28:20,120
is no I don't know why we don't hear we

662
00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:21,920
do not hear abduction stories here if

663
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,480
they're if they're going on we're not

664
00:28:29,230 --> 00:28:26,240
hearing about them I did have a witness

665
00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:29,240
who as a young man worked at a Christmas

666
00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:32,780
tree farm near the Peary Center and the

667
00:28:38,110 --> 00:28:34,520
people that worked at the tree farm

668
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:38,120
sometimes saw them carry in caged

669
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:42,080
animals into this facility now at one

670
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:44,930
time this was a defense operation during

671
00:28:50,410 --> 00:28:47,090
the Cold War and now it's passed off as

672
00:28:53,290 --> 00:28:50,420
an astronomy educational place why with

673
00:28:55,930 --> 00:28:53,300
animals in cages be taken into such a

674
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:55,940
place from one of the witnesses who

675
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,640
again at one point had high security

676
00:29:02,620 --> 00:29:00,080
clearance said that there are

677
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:02,630
experiments of that kind going on now

678
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:06,530
whether people are being involved in

679
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:08,480
this we just don't hear about it I do

680
00:29:13,570 --> 00:29:11,210
not know the closest I can come to it is

681
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:13,580
one of the witnesses worked for Social

682
00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:16,880
Services or of some kind and he would

683
00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:19,790
get occasionally cases of let's see what

684
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:22,340
do you call it satanic ritual in the

685
00:29:29,410 --> 00:29:25,760
news cases and when these cases would

686
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:29,420
come up the state FBI would get involved

687
00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:32,690
they would come in and his Co his whole

688
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:34,400
case would be taken away from him and

689
00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:36,110
everybody would be shut up about it

690
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:37,680
so that

691
00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:40,410
was happening in the little town that's

692
00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:44,430
closest to the Perry facility so maybe

693
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:46,440
there are human experimentations going

694
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:49,050
on but we only have those kind of

695
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:52,290
indirect indications that that might be

696
00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:54,930
the case right right yeah obviously

697
00:29:59,030 --> 00:29:56,430
they're gonna keep that stuff pretty

698
00:30:01,160 --> 00:29:59,040
tight-lipped but hearing even just an

699
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:01,170
anecdote about caged animals being taken

700
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:02,910
in there is really interesting and you

701
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:04,860
can extrapolate quite a bit from that

702
00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:07,170
they also the same people at the tree

703
00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:09,060
farm also saw them sometimes digging

704
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:12,180
pits out in the land around the facility

705
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:15,960
and you have to wonder why yeah and you

706
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:18,210
mentioned satanic ritual abuse these

707
00:30:23,420 --> 00:30:21,570
things all seem to come together in many

708
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:23,430
many cases and I've heard you say you

709
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:25,050
don't really like to get into the dark

710
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,310
and creepy but there's plenty of

711
00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:28,320
indications that there's dark and creepy

712
00:30:32,420 --> 00:30:30,270
yes yes yeah I mean government

713
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:32,430
experiments with the occult that seems

714
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:34,050
to be a big thing especially a few

715
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:36,990
decades ago and having this connection

716
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:39,690
to UFOs it seems strange that again you

717
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:41,940
know the term satanic ritual abuse comes

718
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:43,950
up in one of these areas where there's

719
00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:46,050
secret government facilities and UFOs

720
00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:48,750
and it just seems like a paranormal soup

721
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:51,300
that always comes to gather and it's

722
00:30:56,540 --> 00:30:53,490
possible that the same things aren't

723
00:30:58,820 --> 00:30:56,550
going on at every facility right like we

724
00:31:01,760 --> 00:30:58,830
from my own research I can only speak to

725
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,770
the Perry center I haven't heard stories

726
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:04,320
like that associated with the Smoky

727
00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:05,820
Mountain National Park or Mount Mitchell

728
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:10,140
or Sugarloaf Mountain or even there's a

729
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:13,170
facility that's been sited in let's say

730
00:31:18,140 --> 00:31:15,930
Linville Gorge but that's the only one

731
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:18,150
where you hear the the creepy side of it

732
00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:20,370
can you tell us about the testimony of I

733
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:22,760
believe you're referring to him as hawk

734
00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:27,090
yes now he's the the man who was our key

735
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:29,520
witness with the Mount Mitchell now what

736
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:31,890
do you want to know what were some his

737
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:34,110
disclosures because he seems to be one

738
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:35,130
of the ones who's given you the most

739
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:39,120
detail he was in the medical field when

740
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:40,770
he retired he still had a lot of energy

741
00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:43,140
and he decided that he would volunteer

742
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:45,270
for the National Guard here in North

743
00:31:49,670 --> 00:31:47,310
Carolina in their medical unit because

744
00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:49,680
he had been a medic during the Vietnam

745
00:31:54,210 --> 00:31:51,340
War and he also was in a

746
00:31:56,910 --> 00:31:54,220
related medical field and so when he

747
00:31:59,310 --> 00:31:56,920
went there they acceptable accepted him

748
00:32:01,950 --> 00:31:59,320
but they put him to work doing

749
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:01,960
undercover surveillance because he had

750
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:05,890
FBI and army intelligence clearance and

751
00:32:12,410 --> 00:32:10,000
so he's the one who ended up with a

752
00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:12,420
squad of men in a small squad

753
00:32:19,650 --> 00:32:18,220
surveilling Mount Mitchell and let's see

754
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:19,660
there's so much I got to figure out how

755
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,330
to tell it simply at one point he

756
00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:25,360
himself saw the side of the mountain

757
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:28,300
open which was big enough for tanks to

758
00:32:33,150 --> 00:32:31,420
go into and he said he also saw it when

759
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:33,160
it was shot and even though he knew it

760
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:35,590
was there he could see no sign that it

761
00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:39,010
was there so these the camouflage they

762
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:41,380
they do on some of these interests

763
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:45,220
entrances is quite extensive Wow open

764
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:46,690
like the side of a mountain of course

765
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:48,970
like we mentioned earlier UFO stories

766
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:50,470
coming out of the mountains do we know

767
00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:52,510
how it opens or closes is it like a

768
00:32:58,260 --> 00:32:54,190
garage door or something more

769
00:33:00,450 --> 00:32:58,270
sophisticated from what I can gather

770
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:00,460
it's kind of like a garage door huh I

771
00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:02,170
don't know if it goes up on the police

772
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:03,520
just the way it does in your own garage

773
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:06,940
but it's it's along those lines and when

774
00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:10,090
it when it's closed it it blends right

775
00:33:13,650 --> 00:33:11,470
in with the with the side of the

776
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:13,660
mountain hmm I mean you'll find similar

777
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:16,830
things stories out in the West to where

778
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:19,690
things disappear into mountains and it's

779
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:22,840
just you know I didn't garage door

780
00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:25,450
opening right right and I also wrote

781
00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:28,360
down one of the quotes of testimony is

782
00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:30,820
that somebody had told you that they

783
00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:32,980
have an ex-military friend who now works

784
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:34,600
for the National Park Service who told

785
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:36,010
them they're not allowed to even ask

786
00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:39,190
about any of the unusual activity at the

787
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:40,780
park did this particular witness tell

788
00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:42,730
you about what they might have meant

789
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,560
when they said unusual activity I'm sure

790
00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:46,000
just the things we're talking about but

791
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:49,270
anything specific they saw why don't I

792
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:51,940
tell your listeners about how that whole

793
00:33:57,510 --> 00:33:54,910
story started because it started right

794
00:34:00,420 --> 00:33:57,520
off on the deep end this man with them

795
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:00,430
who was retired military I had known

796
00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:02,920
through my own work and so he let me

797
00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:05,320
know about it and I trusted him

798
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:06,789
because I'd known him long before he had

799
00:34:13,169 --> 00:34:09,849
experienced any of this and he and his

800
00:34:15,899 --> 00:34:13,179
wife were part I think it a like a place

801
00:34:18,809 --> 00:34:15,909
to get gas a coke or something right at

802
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:18,819
the intersection of 441 and 74 which is

803
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,609
south of Cherokee and while they were

804
00:34:26,339 --> 00:34:23,760
parked there there was this big truck

805
00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:26,349
tractor trailer truck and on the back of

806
00:34:32,849 --> 00:34:30,220
it was some very unusual equipment he

807
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:32,859
said from his experience it looked like

808
00:34:39,089 --> 00:34:37,089
a decontamination chamber and that was

809
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:39,099
from you know from what he knew there is

810
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:40,750
a picture of it in the book that I have

811
00:34:46,379 --> 00:34:44,560
hmm so they very friendly and outgoing

812
00:34:49,859 --> 00:34:46,389
and he went up and talked to the driver

813
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,869
and she said that she was there waiting

814
00:34:55,169 --> 00:34:52,480
for five other trucks and their escort

815
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:55,179
and they were taking equipment to

816
00:35:00,660 --> 00:34:58,210
Newfound Gap Road which is where which

817
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:00,670
connects North Carolina with Gatlinburg

818
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:04,720
Tennessee and then from there the

819
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:06,970
equipment would be air dropped in an

820
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:08,950
undisclosed location well she told him

821
00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:11,710
quite a bit he was very curious so at a

822
00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:14,680
distance he he followed all of this and

823
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:16,660
the five other trucks arrived they all

824
00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:19,410
had tarps over the equipment all had

825
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:22,420
USAF or United States Air Force on the

826
00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:25,599
tarps and the escorts arrived they were

827
00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:31,900
white SUVs and the men in those SUVs

828
00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:36,300
were in black garb and had weapons so

829
00:35:42,930 --> 00:35:38,520
this man that we call Clarke

830
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:42,940
followed this Caravan and it ended up in

831
00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:45,250
a place called smoke Mont campground and

832
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:47,500
as soon as all the trucks went through

833
00:35:50,490 --> 00:35:49,750
the gate into that campground the gate

834
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:50,500
was closed

835
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:53,710
well that campground is really very very

836
00:35:59,069 --> 00:35:56,560
close to the entrance which is on Hein

837
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:59,079
2d Road so it's the probably the nearest

838
00:36:02,849 --> 00:36:00,880
place they can transport that heavy

839
00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:02,859
equipment it's also in that same

840
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:06,520
direction that repeatedly people have

841
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:11,010
seen these cargo planes and Ospreys and

842
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Sky trains carrying large equipment hmm

843
00:36:18,670 --> 00:36:17,650
so there's a lot of evidence that you

844
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:18,680
know

845
00:36:23,830 --> 00:36:20,330
something very real is going on and

846
00:36:25,690 --> 00:36:23,840
people will see SUVs white usually with

847
00:36:27,730 --> 00:36:25,700
plates that only have numbers on them

848
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:27,740
and they have no identifying tag on them

849
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:31,130
and they'll just be pulled off you know

850
00:36:37,870 --> 00:36:34,720
somewhere on the edge of a dirt road huh

851
00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:37,880
Wow and the things you said about UN

852
00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:39,830
troops I mean that's so fascinating the

853
00:36:42,910 --> 00:36:41,660
blue hats I mean because I've had

854
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:42,920
researchers talk about the narrative

855
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:45,680
that we're getting now with the police

856
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:47,450
shooting things that's going on they've

857
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:48,890
said that it's all going to come to a

858
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:51,290
head where they're trying to put out in

859
00:36:55,150 --> 00:36:53,390
the culture that the police force is not

860
00:36:56,770 --> 00:36:55,160
equipped to handle what's going on or

861
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:56,780
they're undertrained or this or that or

862
00:37:00,520 --> 00:36:58,490
whatever and they'll have to bring in

863
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:00,530
these other troops exactly all right

864
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:02,570
let's go back that's you know let's go

865
00:37:09,370 --> 00:37:05,930
back to Mount Mitchell when Hawk was

866
00:37:12,370 --> 00:37:09,380
doing the observation of that area there

867
00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:12,380
was another group that was at a town

868
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:14,600
about just to the east of Mount Mitchell

869
00:37:22,570 --> 00:37:17,410
called Marion and they were there and

870
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:22,580
witnessed 20 to 25 tanks being wheeled

871
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:25,670
off a train they were loaded onto big

872
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,610
trucks and then they were taken up to

873
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:31,040
the top of Mount Mitchell there's only

874
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:33,890
two roads as I understand it from the

875
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:36,770
witness and those were being guarded at

876
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:40,430
every point those tanks went up the

877
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:42,500
mountain and we're never seen again the

878
00:37:47,050 --> 00:37:43,820
trucks were never seen again

879
00:37:48,970 --> 00:37:47,060
so they disappeared into that garage

880
00:37:51,130 --> 00:37:48,980
door we were talking about and never

881
00:37:54,370 --> 00:37:51,140
came down in any conditional you know

882
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:54,380
fashion he said that they were they were

883
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:56,510
painted like the undercoating in other

884
00:38:01,240 --> 00:37:58,250
words they would they could be painted

885
00:38:03,010 --> 00:38:01,250
again it was like the primer on them so

886
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:03,020
they at that point couldn't be

887
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:05,690
identified as Army you win or whatever

888
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:09,890
but they went into that facility Wow man

889
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:11,450
it makes you wonder it seems like these

890
00:38:15,370 --> 00:38:13,510
things go a little beyond the

891
00:38:17,350 --> 00:38:15,380
description of a typical military

892
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:17,360
exercise it seems like some type of

893
00:38:22,270 --> 00:38:19,910
preparation that's the way it sounds to

894
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:22,280
me and we had a witness who was at

895
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:26,930
Cherokee tribal offices and they were in

896
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:29,570
one room and it was adjacent to the

897
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:31,970
office of the chief well the walls were

898
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:32,500
thin and

899
00:38:35,130 --> 00:38:33,970
and they were close enough to the wall

900
00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:35,140
that they could hear part of the

901
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:37,390
conversation and at this point I can't

902
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:41,730
quote it for you but they heard these

903
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:44,050
officials come in and talk to the chief

904
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,450
and told them explain to him what would

905
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:48,400
happen if there was some kind of an

906
00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:50,830
emergency and how they would take him to

907
00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:52,390
an underground facility for his

908
00:38:57,060 --> 00:38:55,630
protection mm-hmm interesting yeah it

909
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,070
seems like there's a certain class of

910
00:39:02,400 --> 00:38:59,680
people that have this have the right to

911
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:02,410
be in right yeah this escape plan that

912
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:04,630
the rest of us just don't have that's

913
00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:05,260
correct

914
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:07,360
and I know you've talked about people

915
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,370
coming to you with information since

916
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:10,960
writing the book about these underground

917
00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:12,610
bases is there anything that you've

918
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:14,380
heard recently about these basins

919
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:16,330
doesn't that's intrigued you yeah well

920
00:39:21,630 --> 00:39:18,250
there's one that I haven't even started

921
00:39:23,970 --> 00:39:21,640
working on I've done one taped interview

922
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:23,980
I haven't even transcribed it yet then I

923
00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:25,510
got some stuff in the mail with more

924
00:39:30,990 --> 00:39:27,190
information and we have another third

925
00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:31,000
person but in the area of chimney rock

926
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:35,740
there are major military people buying

927
00:39:40,610 --> 00:39:38,650
houses around there and when I talk

928
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:40,620
about major people I'm talking about

929
00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:43,450
even people who are high up in the

930
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:46,180
Pentagon and they don't live there most

931
00:39:50,340 --> 00:39:47,530
of the time so they're buying these

932
00:39:53,340 --> 00:39:50,350
really expensive homes and I'm talking

933
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:53,350
palatial mountain cabin homes with great

934
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:55,630
vistas and all of that and they're only

935
00:39:59,010 --> 00:39:57,130
there for just a short period of time

936
00:40:02,070 --> 00:39:59,020
they don't even live there all the time

937
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,080
but you know why are so many military

938
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:05,680
people living around these places some

939
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:08,650
of these facilities maybe not just here

940
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:10,810
but other places will also be like

941
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:13,390
adjacent to things like golf courses

942
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:15,790
where the elite can live without being

943
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:18,880
really noticed and if necessary they

944
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:20,050
could easily get into one of these

945
00:40:24,450 --> 00:40:23,290
facilities Wow yeah that's interesting

946
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:24,460
you always got to look at what the

947
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:26,530
people who have insider information

948
00:40:30,810 --> 00:40:28,810
might be doing and that's very curious

949
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:30,820
that they're all coming there I'm sure

950
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:32,290
they're going to many other places too

951
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:35,550
but and also cashiers and Highland's are

952
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:38,650
where the rich come they usually tend to

953
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:41,320
live there in the summer months and when

954
00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:42,610
it gets cold here in the mountains they

955
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:46,540
go back to plant land in fact one of the

956
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:49,990
people we contacted once was involved

957
00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:52,690
with developing the Hubble telescope it

958
00:40:57,390 --> 00:40:54,760
was very old at the time we met him but

959
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,400
he lives up there Carter

960
00:41:01,200 --> 00:40:59,920
the former president he's vacationed up

961
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:01,210
there and has friends up there

962
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:06,460
it's a high-income area mm-hmm Wow

963
00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:09,150
I'm also curious this is kind of a

964
00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:11,560
detour but I'm curious about this object

965
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:14,380
that you photographed in the orbit of

966
00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:16,930
the Sun or in the eyesight of the Sun

967
00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:18,760
what is the deal I think you're calling

968
00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:21,640
it the Blue Moon okay it's a two levels

969
00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:24,220
we we in our section called sky ship

970
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:27,340
photos we have what we have called the

971
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:29,430
Blue Moon thing where they're no matter

972
00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:32,410
when it is when we've done this over

973
00:41:40,050 --> 00:41:36,190
since 2009 we've taken photos and there

974
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:40,060
will be this orb that will usually be

975
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:41,170
there in the middle of the day that you

976
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:43,090
can catch on your camera not with your

977
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:45,730
bare eye and sometimes it will disappear

978
00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:47,290
into the heart of the Sun or the

979
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:49,120
brightness of the Sun and then pop out

980
00:41:56,070 --> 00:41:53,430
again so that's one type of photo and

981
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,080
your listeners can find that under sky

982
00:42:00,120 --> 00:41:58,240
ship photos on our website there's

983
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:00,130
another section on the website called

984
00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:03,190
global links and that is where you'll

985
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:05,080
find some of these phenomenal photos

986
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,550
that are from satellite NASA satellite

987
00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:12,640
photos and a man from the Netherlands

988
00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:15,400
contacted us back in I think it was 2013

989
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:19,240
and he was able to what he calls dust

990
00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:22,330
and clean these photos so that you can

991
00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:24,790
see a lot of the detail well these these

992
00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:28,750
are monster monster monster ships that

993
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:30,430
will appear around the Sun they're

994
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:32,530
bigger than Jupiter which is you know

995
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:34,650
the biggest planet we have really and

996
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:38,800
when those shots are cleaned up you can

997
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:41,680
see the very mechanical structure of it

998
00:42:47,550 --> 00:42:45,760
or of them and I encourage people to go

999
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:47,560
to the global links section of the

1000
00:42:53,550 --> 00:42:49,330
website and again it's called Sky ships

1001
00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:53,560
over cashers calm and those photos began

1002
00:43:00,300 --> 00:42:57,190
to come in in I'm pretty sure it was

1003
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:00,310
2013 so 2013 14 and fifth

1004
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:01,810
if you just scroll through those

1005
00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:04,510
sections you and stop at the photos that

1006
00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:05,980
catch your eye there's quite a few of

1007
00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:08,380
them that we've been able to give ya I

1008
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:10,540
did like the photos I saw there some of

1009
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:12,910
them are more intriguing than others but

1010
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:14,620
there's definitely a couple that you're

1011
00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:16,900
like wow I don't know what that could be

1012
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:18,670
so I guess you're not inclined to think

1013
00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:20,410
this is some kind of Planet X then this

1014
00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:22,780
is more of a some kind of structure some

1015
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:26,230
kind of man-made or being made vein out

1016
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:28,090
there alright

1017
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:30,130
again we let's go back to just the sky

1018
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:31,510
ship photos because those are the ones

1019
00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:33,850
that people take from the earth not from

1020
00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:37,600
a satellite hmm and it's it cannot be

1021
00:43:43,170 --> 00:43:40,030
Nibiru or Planet X or Planet 12 or

1022
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:43,180
whatever because a planet would not be

1023
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:46,510
able to pop in and out of the intensity

1024
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:48,970
of the central Sun it would be on a

1025
00:43:55,590 --> 00:43:53,920
continuous orbit and so we just we see

1026
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:55,600
this variation and that just can't be

1027
00:43:59,700 --> 00:43:58,090
the case we've gotten I think no more

1028
00:44:02,970 --> 00:43:59,710
than three times we've gotten pictures

1029
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:02,980
where one of those orbs has orbs around

1030
00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:05,440
it so it looks like like a giant

1031
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:07,240
mothership with other ships showing up

1032
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:09,780
around it that's when we met the guy who

1033
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:12,730
was involved with the Hubble telescope

1034
00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:15,250
because we showed him this photo because

1035
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:18,070
we wanted to make sure it wasn't blown

1036
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:22,390
off it's just a camera anomaly and he

1037
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:24,310
assured us that it wasn't he said that

1038
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:29,200
was not what that was and so what can I

1039
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,080
say yeah that we have more mysteries to

1040
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:34,480
solve than we don't we definitely do and

1041
00:44:40,410 --> 00:44:37,030
I mean the ship a ship the size of

1042
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:40,420
Jupiter it seems even straight even less

1043
00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:42,970
feasible but I guess if there's a race

1044
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:44,380
of beings out there that considers the

1045
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:46,810
earth a farm and they have to be

1046
00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:48,670
watching over it in some way right and

1047
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:51,160
we cannot assume that all of the ones in

1048
00:44:56,580 --> 00:44:52,840
those big ships are the big evil ones

1049
00:44:59,310 --> 00:44:56,590
and we can't do that but it's I really

1050
00:45:01,050 --> 00:44:59,320
hope your listeners will scroll through

1051
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:01,060
those sections and take a look at them

1052
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:04,510
yeah absolutely but very awesome well

1053
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:06,430
Mary thanks so much for doing this

1054
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:08,530
I enjoy the weird world but I want to

1055
00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:10,090
get away from the same old story so this

1056
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:12,040
was a lot of fun would you remind the

1057
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:13,359
people once more where they can get

1058
00:45:16,799 --> 00:45:15,249
books in the URL the website before we

1059
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:16,809
call it in I sure can

1060
00:45:22,499 --> 00:45:19,599
the website is sky ships over cashiers

1061
00:45:25,259 --> 00:45:22,509
dot-com I have three books that I've

1062
00:45:28,289 --> 00:45:25,269
written since 2013 they're all available

1063
00:45:30,690 --> 00:45:28,299
on Amazon there's one underground

1064
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:30,700
military bases hidden in North Carolina

1065
00:45:36,749 --> 00:45:33,730
mountains the second one is Cherokee

1066
00:45:38,279 --> 00:45:36,759
little people were real the third one we

1067
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:38,289
haven't even talked about total

1068
00:45:43,769 --> 00:45:40,390
different subject is called tangible

1069
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:43,779
evidence of Jesus the full long title is

1070
00:45:48,930 --> 00:45:46,089
tangible evidence of Jesus left behind

1071
00:45:51,289 --> 00:45:48,940
for us to find and it gets into the

1072
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:51,299
scientific archaeological information on

1073
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:54,220
Jesus that you simply don't find in most

1074
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:56,650
places so those are the three books that

1075
00:46:02,009 --> 00:45:59,170
I have out there and the way that I've

1076
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:02,019
written them is in what I call a cross

1077
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:03,880
between newspaper and magazine style

1078
00:46:10,499 --> 00:46:06,880
there's lots of photos Maps visuals and

1079
00:46:13,259 --> 00:46:10,509
I write in a very concise easy it's a

1080
00:46:15,989 --> 00:46:13,269
way you know easy read and so you don't

1081
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:15,999
have to wade through thick thick tombs

1082
00:46:20,609 --> 00:46:18,609
of information mm-hmm it definitely

1083
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:20,619
makes my job easier it works for every

1084
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,170
guest but great stuff Mary thanks again

1085
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:25,119
take care out there I enjoyed talking

1086
00:46:29,579 --> 00:46:25,599
with you

1087
00:46:32,130 --> 00:46:29,589
oh me too have a good one all right

1088
00:46:33,989 --> 00:46:32,140
fellas and ladies Mary Joyce coming in

1089
00:46:37,049 --> 00:46:33,999
hot with all sorts of interesting stuff

1090
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:37,059
UN troops and secret bases ETS calling

1091
00:46:41,579 --> 00:46:39,190
the earth a farm knowledge of the world

1092
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,589
heritage treaty jupiter-sized ships I

1093
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:43,200
mean this is what we're dealing with in

1094
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:47,529
2016 on a Tuesday in September you know

1095
00:46:52,979 --> 00:46:49,690
by now that I like the idea of some type

1096
00:46:55,739 --> 00:46:52,989
of shadowy non-human overseer but well

1097
00:46:57,390 --> 00:46:55,749
nobody likes the idea but it does get me

1098
00:47:00,029 --> 00:46:57,400
all jazzed up you know what I'm saying

1099
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:00,039
there is weirdness out there in fact I

1100
00:47:04,620 --> 00:47:02,170
just learned about a guy named Norman

1101
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:04,630
Bergeron who is very accomplished in

1102
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:07,420
Aeronautics and engineering and he wrote

1103
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:09,609
a book called ring makers of Saturn

1104
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:11,529
because when he studied Saturn's rings

1105
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:14,529
he concluded that these rings are

1106
00:47:21,089 --> 00:47:18,249
actually exhaust from ships circling the

1107
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:21,099
planet Saturn it's wild but it's super

1108
00:47:24,569 --> 00:47:22,690
interesting in the context of the

1109
00:47:27,259 --> 00:47:24,579
Brotherhood of Saturn or guests who have

1110
00:47:28,939 --> 00:47:27,269
talked about Saturn as a control center

1111
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:28,949
or that some signal perhaps the

1112
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:31,140
projection of the entire solar system is

1113
00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:34,859
coming from the hexagon shaped North

1114
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:37,739
Pole of Saturn these are out their ideas

1115
00:47:41,779 --> 00:47:40,079
but I like them and I've tried to get

1116
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:41,789
this guy on but last I heard he was in

1117
00:47:46,729 --> 00:47:44,249
his late 90s and I got no response from

1118
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:46,739
his website but his book is such a

1119
00:47:50,809 --> 00:47:48,329
limited print run that you can find

1120
00:47:54,139 --> 00:47:50,819
copies on Amazon for over a thousand

1121
00:47:56,029 --> 00:47:54,149
bucks that must mean it's true but tie

1122
00:47:57,889 --> 00:47:56,039
that in with John Brandenburg and the

1123
00:47:59,989 --> 00:47:57,899
nuclear weapons signature and Mars's

1124
00:48:01,939 --> 00:47:59,999
atmosphere and we really got a party

1125
00:48:03,739 --> 00:48:01,949
going you know if you heard the Plus

1126
00:48:05,749 --> 00:48:03,749
show of this episode where we got into

1127
00:48:06,919 --> 00:48:05,759
the kid who has memories of fighting in

1128
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,929
the Martian army

1129
00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:09,599
that's another log on the fire but

1130
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:11,819
anyway I thought Mary was a solid guest

1131
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:13,890
highlighted some lesser discuss topics

1132
00:48:17,899 --> 00:48:15,689
Cherokee little people that's

1133
00:48:19,819 --> 00:48:17,909
interesting to me who knows if we're

1134
00:48:22,009 --> 00:48:19,829
talking about just a small humanoid race

1135
00:48:25,009 --> 00:48:22,019
or something more mystical like

1136
00:48:26,809 --> 00:48:25,019
leprechauns or fairies but interestingly

1137
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,819
a few months ago I was in Washington

1138
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:28,559
State and we walked this two mile

1139
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:31,169
underground pitch-black tunnel called

1140
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:34,529
ape cave which is a lava tube carved out

1141
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:36,689
by a previous eruption of Mount st.

1142
00:48:41,329 --> 00:48:39,169
Helens it was a great experience

1143
00:48:44,389 --> 00:48:41,339
probably the most time I've ever spent

1144
00:48:46,249 --> 00:48:44,399
underground in the dark but the whole

1145
00:48:48,439 --> 00:48:46,259
time I was looking along the ridges for

1146
00:48:50,839 --> 00:48:48,449
some type of creature to be watching us

1147
00:48:52,759 --> 00:48:50,849
but I think it's a bit too touristy for

1148
00:48:55,999 --> 00:48:52,769
that there however it's called ape cave

1149
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,009
because it is near ape Canyon which got

1150
00:49:00,679 --> 00:48:57,839
its name from an alleged Bigfoot

1151
00:49:02,449 --> 00:49:00,689
encounter in the 1920s here's a little

1152
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,459
on it from Wikipedia what you know is

1153
00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:04,559
always a bit watered down anyway but

1154
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:07,319
even there it says ape Canyon was

1155
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:09,089
reportedly the site of a violent

1156
00:49:14,269 --> 00:49:11,729
encounter in 1924 between a group of

1157
00:49:18,339 --> 00:49:14,279
miners and a group of ape men these

1158
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:18,349
allegations were reported in the July

1159
00:49:24,379 --> 00:49:22,319
1924 issue of the organ Fred Beck one of

1160
00:49:25,819 --> 00:49:24,389
the miners claimed that he shot and

1161
00:49:28,009 --> 00:49:25,829
possibly killed at least one of these

1162
00:49:29,959 --> 00:49:28,019
creatures following an attack on their

1163
00:49:32,179 --> 00:49:29,969
cabin during which the creatures

1164
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:32,189
bombarded the cabin with rocks and tried

1165
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:34,859
to break in Beck detailed his claims in

1166
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:37,169
a 22 page booklet in which he identified

1167
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:39,209
the creatures as mystical beings from

1168
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,540
another--

1169
00:49:44,060 --> 00:49:41,880
to mention he also explained that he's

1170
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:44,070
experienced psychic premonitions

1171
00:49:49,810 --> 00:49:46,560
envisions his entire life of which the

1172
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:49,820
eight men were only one component and

1173
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:52,290
we're off to the races again but I don't

1174
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,060
know how relevant that is but it is cool

1175
00:49:59,720 --> 00:49:56,880
right anyway big thanks to Mary Joyce

1176
00:50:01,040 --> 00:49:59,730
check out sky ships over cashiers if you

1177
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:01,050
like the first free hour of the

1178
00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:03,090
interview with Mary signup for THC plus

1179
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:05,460
to hear more and go through hours and

1180
00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:07,410
hours of archives and all that good

1181
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:09,630
stuff you know I love you keep your head

1182
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:11,400
up your pimp and strong and I'll see you

1183
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:13,050
soon I've done what I can

1184
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,210
your move earth farming entities and

1185
00:50:21,090 --> 00:50:17,520
secret mountain base soldiers you're

1186
00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:24,430
lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you go to

1187
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:27,140
bed at 7:00 and your brain comes alive

1188
00:50:32,980 --> 00:50:30,650
cuz uhm nine to five you wake up with a

1189
00:50:35,470 --> 00:50:32,990
dread and make sure your cats are fed

1190
00:50:38,110 --> 00:50:35,480
did your brain talk to ghosts who moved

1191
00:50:42,310 --> 00:50:38,120
your coffee and toast as you listened to

1192
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:42,320
the higher side chats you get to your

1193
00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:44,810
desk and your boss says it's a mess and

1194
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:47,630
your soul slowly goes to a place where

1195
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:49,610
nothing grows when you think he's not

1196
00:50:57,610 --> 00:50:55,280
around you insert a SETI sound vom says

1197
00:51:01,960 --> 00:50:57,620
turn it down and you say it's just the

1198
00:51:05,860 --> 00:51:01,970
higher side chats oh do you think you'd

1199
00:51:09,850 --> 00:51:05,870
be invited to Bohemian Grove to a

1200
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:09,860
Bilderberg Club oh do you think could be

1201
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:14,050
invited by Rasta to a party on a

1202
00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:21,070
to the center of the

1203
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,840
through the Marianas Trench your teeth

1204
00:51:31,230 --> 00:51:26,000
begin to clench from the sulphureus

1205
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:31,240
stench the mask you give in doesn't fit

1206
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:39,630
starting today you'll make plans to get

1207
00:51:44,970 --> 00:51:42,280
away there's no one to hold you down and

1208
00:51:47,820 --> 00:51:44,980
the waters start to drown when you wake

1209
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:47,830
to the glare of a co fluorescent stare

1210
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:50,710
and the light winks at you cuz its life

1211
00:51:56,910 --> 00:51:53,050
is almost through but it's holding gone

1212
00:52:17,229 --> 00:51:56,920
to quit time just like you it's time for

1213
00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:19,549
hey guys thanks for listening to the

1214
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:21,150
first hour of the higher side chats

1215
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:23,460
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

1216
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:25,529
don't know there is a second hour to all

1217
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:27,930
the episodes we do around here generally

1218
00:52:31,339 --> 00:52:29,609
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

1219
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,349
topics and ideas that a guest is about

1220
00:52:36,469 --> 00:52:33,359
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

1221
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:36,479
THC for free consider signing up at the

1222
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1223
00:52:42,979 --> 00:52:40,650
second hour of the 5 shows I put

1224
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,989
together each month I never really

1225
00:52:46,579 --> 00:52:44,880
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

1226
00:52:48,589 --> 00:52:46,589
but I really hate the idea of spending

1227
00:52:50,690 --> 00:52:48,599
airtime promoting some product that's

1228
00:52:52,339 --> 00:52:50,700
completely unrelated and telling you the

1229
00:52:55,130 --> 00:52:52,349
best way to support the show is to buy

1230
00:52:56,989 --> 00:52:55,140
an audio book or new underwear by mail

1231
00:52:59,329 --> 00:52:56,999
or something crazy like that so instead

1232
00:53:00,829 --> 00:52:59,339
if you like the show double your time

1233
00:53:03,049 --> 00:53:00,839
with it for five bucks a month and let's

1234
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:03,059
cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

1235
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:04,710
price of a movie ticket and you get at

1236
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:06,450
least an extra five hours of show a

1237
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:09,089
month collectively it keeps us stable

1238
00:53:12,469 --> 00:53:10,890
and it frees me from wasting your time

1239
00:53:15,019 --> 00:53:12,479
with anything but the show you came to

1240
00:53:16,999 --> 00:53:15,029
listen to it's really the only way for

1241
00:53:18,799 --> 00:53:17,009
an independent one-man show to make it

1242
00:53:21,049 --> 00:53:18,809
and I do what I can so that it's worth

1243
00:53:22,999 --> 00:53:21,059
your while since we started this I've

1244
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:23,009
always tried to use the subscriptions to

1245
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,049
improve the podcast and make signups

1246
00:53:29,509 --> 00:53:27,599
more advantageous it started with just a

1247
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,519
second hour for the main show but now

1248
00:53:33,229 --> 00:53:31,200
we've got a nice forum going where

1249
00:53:34,969 --> 00:53:33,239
people can get deeper in conversation

1250
00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:34,979
about the episodes with other listeners

1251
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:37,859
submit a candidate in the guest request

1252
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:39,710
thread or share their own personal

1253
00:53:43,849 --> 00:53:41,609
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

1254
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:43,859
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

1255
00:53:48,140 --> 00:53:46,440
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

1256
00:53:49,819 --> 00:53:48,150
the Plus comments are always the first

1257
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,829
places I try to go for listener

1258
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:52,079
engagement but it does get harder as the

1259
00:53:56,299 --> 00:53:54,450
show gets more popular because of that

1260
00:53:57,739 --> 00:53:56,309
there's also a direct messaging feature

1261
00:54:00,589 --> 00:53:57,749
that you can use to reach me through the

1262
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:00,599
plus site also but beyond the forum if

1263
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:02,130
you like any of the music I've used for

1264
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:04,410
THC most of it I've hired artists to

1265
00:54:08,420 --> 00:54:06,180
make and I provided all its free

1266
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:08,430
downloads to plus members too so if you

1267
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:09,900
like a particular song you've heard

1268
00:54:14,479 --> 00:54:12,089
close the show out recently come get the

1269
00:54:16,459 --> 00:54:14,489
mp3 I should also mention that if you

1270
00:54:18,769 --> 00:54:16,469
don't like the idea of paying $5

1271
00:54:20,959 --> 00:54:18,779
recurring every month I get that you can

1272
00:54:23,329 --> 00:54:20,969
buy three months six months or a year

1273
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:23,339
upfront and just be done with it I have

1274
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:25,049
plenty of listeners who send checks and

1275
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:26,730
money orders to the PIO box too

1276
00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:29,160
I try to make it as easy for people as I

1277
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:30,750
can and you can read more about it on

1278
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:32,730
the signup page also be sure to check

1279
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:35,280
out the FAQ help page on the plus site

1280
00:54:37,970 --> 00:54:36,690
if you have any questions or concerns

1281
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:37,980
about how to listen to a

1282
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:40,020
password-protected show on your devices

1283
00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:41,910
I've highlighted a lot of great

1284
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:44,220
solutions and one of those would be the

1285
00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:46,260
iPhone app that just recently hit the

1286
00:54:50,930 --> 00:54:48,780
Apple App Store a super kind and

1287
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:50,940
talented listener made it for us and you

1288
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:52,770
can use it to stream or download either

1289
00:54:57,890 --> 00:54:54,930
the free or the plus show if you're on

1290
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:57,900
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

1291
00:55:02,060 --> 00:54:59,490
addict and subscribe to the feed

1292
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:02,070
manually that way I also try to throw an

1293
00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:04,770
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

1294
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:06,780
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

1295
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:08,940
get to try out soon but I give you all I

1296
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:10,890
can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

1297
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:12,570
least give it a shot if you've listened

1298
00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:14,280
to a few free shows and you find them

1299
00:55:17,810 --> 00:55:16,020
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

1300
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:17,820
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

1301
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:19,980
of them but if you have any questions

1302
00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:21,810
concerns or comments about any of this

1303
00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:23,220
please get in touch with us at the

1304
00:55:28,099 --> 00:55:26,190
higher side chats team at gmail.com I

1305
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:28,109
also wanted to plug the higher side

1306
00:55:31,340 --> 00:55:29,520
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1307
00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:31,350
totally free for anyone who wants to

1308
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:33,840
sign up at the main internet website for

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00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:36,450
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1310
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:38,250
can also get on that email list through

1311
00:55:42,109 --> 00:55:39,930
the higher side chats Facebook page

1312
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:42,119
there's a button there as well but the

1313
00:55:45,980 --> 00:55:43,650
reason I'm doing this is because I get

1314
00:55:48,050 --> 00:55:45,990
tons and tons of emails after a show

1315
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:48,060
goes up asking me about how I feel about

1316
00:55:51,530 --> 00:55:49,950
a particular guest or topic and the

1317
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:51,540
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

1318
00:55:55,490 --> 00:55:53,460
do that especially if I have anything

1319
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,500
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

1320
00:55:59,840 --> 00:55:57,359
to settle sometimes they need to hear

1321
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,850
feedback from you guys first there are a

1322
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:01,440
lot of factors but I usually have

1323
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:03,030
something to communicate to you and I

1324
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:05,609
just don't get to do it so on the 1st of

1325
00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:06,000
the month

1326
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:07,619
I plan to send out a little newsletter

1327
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:09,510
with my thoughts about the 5 shows the

1328
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:11,369
previous month and talk to you about

1329
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:13,410
anything else that's on my mind or

1330
00:56:17,660 --> 00:56:15,750
that's going on and what's probably most

1331
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:17,670
enticing is that I'm gonna give you some

1332
00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:19,530
insight into at least one guest I have

1333
00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:21,660
coming up in the month which people have

1334
00:56:24,620 --> 00:56:23,640
been begging for some posted schedule

1335
00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:24,630
for a long time

1336
00:56:28,220 --> 00:56:26,670
I personally think I'd like the surprise

1337
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:28,230
but sign up for the higher side

1338
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:30,300
newsletter it's free it comes out on the

1339
00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:31,770
1st of the month and I won't waste your

1340
00:56:36,590 --> 00:56:34,680
time with any other emails and that's it

1341
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:36,600
I appreciate you listening I try to give

1342
00:56:40,580 --> 00:56:38,880
alternative ideas and guess a fair shake

1343
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:40,590
on a high quality podcast

1344
00:56:44,810 --> 00:56:42,750
exposed some deep level conspiracies

1345
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:44,820
without the yelling and I hope to offer

1346
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:46,530
some inspiration that even though the

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system relentlessly suggests you should

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follow their blueprint to mediocrity you

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can do your own thing and live a much

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happier life despite all the negativity